1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,180 >> This is James Newberry, 2 00:00:02,180 --> 00:00:06,245 and I'm here with Edith Gray on Friday February 2nd, 3 00:00:06,245 --> 00:00:08,660 2018, at the Sturgis Library 4 00:00:08,660 --> 00:00:10,360 at Kennesaw State University. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,585 We're going to give this try a second time. 6 00:00:12,585 --> 00:00:14,550 [NOISE] Thank you for being here, Ms. Gray. 7 00:00:14,550 --> 00:00:16,465 And, do you agree to this interview? 8 00:00:16,465 --> 00:00:17,450 >> Yes, I do. 9 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:19,580 >> Well, thank you so much. So we'll 10 00:00:19,580 --> 00:00:20,820 just start at the very beginning. 11 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:22,545 Could you state your full name? 12 00:00:22,545 --> 00:00:24,780 >> Mary Edith Gray. 13 00:00:24,780 --> 00:00:26,685 >> And what was your maiden name? 14 00:00:26,685 --> 00:00:27,990 >> Bottoms. 15 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:30,540 >> And what's your birthday? 16 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:33,375 >> March the 26th, 1925. 17 00:00:33,375 --> 00:00:36,060 >> And where were you born? 18 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:38,370 >> Canton, Georgia. 19 00:00:38,370 --> 00:00:40,500 >> And you mentioned that you'd like to tell 20 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:42,160 us your husband's name and his birthday? 21 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:45,100 >> Yes. His name was Arthur Richard Gray. 22 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,000 He was born in Indianapolis, 23 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,220 Indiana for one year. 24 00:00:49,220 --> 00:00:54,965 He lived there. His birthday was June the 16th, 1925. 25 00:00:54,965 --> 00:00:58,485 >> So y'all were very close in age? 26 00:00:58,485 --> 00:00:59,235 >> Yes. 27 00:00:59,235 --> 00:01:00,675 >> Three months. 28 00:01:00,675 --> 00:01:03,680 >> For three months, I was boss. [LAUGHTER] 29 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,505 >> So Ms. Gray, could you tell me your parents' names? 30 00:01:08,505 --> 00:01:13,120 >> Any and Margaret Bottoms? 31 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,960 >> And what did they do for a living? 32 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,420 >> My father was with American bakeries. 33 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:21,260 He sold bread and 34 00:01:21,260 --> 00:01:24,820 he had to wear white uniform all summer long. 35 00:01:24,820 --> 00:01:26,920 And in those days, 36 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,740 we didn't have a washing machine. 37 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:31,740 Mother had a black pot outside, 38 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:32,900 and every Monday morning, 39 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:34,645 she would wash his uniforms, 40 00:01:34,645 --> 00:01:36,820 and she had to iron them all, 41 00:01:36,820 --> 00:01:38,800 and he worked six days a week, 42 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,090 though, until he was 65. 43 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:44,450 >> Well, you said so did he go door to door? 44 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:47,820 >> No grocery stores. 45 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:51,360 And every night, he had to count his money and 46 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,120 send in and pay for everything that he got the next day. 47 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:58,520 >> And you said your mother washed his uniforms? 48 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,040 >> Yes. We didn't have a washing machine to begin with. 49 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,200 Then we got a washing machine later on. 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,695 >> And did your mother work mostly in the home? 51 00:02:06,695 --> 00:02:09,780 >> Yes. All the time in the home. Took care of us. 52 00:02:09,780 --> 00:02:12,435 >> Now, how many siblings did you have? 53 00:02:12,435 --> 00:02:15,330 >> I have two sisters. I'm the middle daughter. 54 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:16,965 >> And what were their names? 55 00:02:16,965 --> 00:02:19,780 >> Alen, was two years older than I am, 56 00:02:19,780 --> 00:02:22,575 and Betty is eight years younger than I am. 57 00:02:22,575 --> 00:02:25,040 >> Tell me a little bit about your childhood 58 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,000 and growing up years with those two sisters. 59 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,340 >> We didn't have many toys. 60 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:32,560 We use a Sears robot catalog to make my paper dolls, 61 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,220 and to make furniture for the paper dolls. 62 00:02:35,220 --> 00:02:39,110 And I remember one Christmas 63 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:42,330 we went to my aunts and I got a banana for Christmas. 64 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:45,645 I did not know we were in a depression, 65 00:02:45,645 --> 00:02:47,530 because I was happy, 66 00:02:47,530 --> 00:02:50,590 my family was happy, and 67 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,870 I didn't know until years later. 68 00:02:53,870 --> 00:02:55,650 Mother made all of our clothes. 69 00:02:55,650 --> 00:02:58,590 She made my underwear and everything during those days. 70 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:01,450 And looking back on it, 71 00:03:01,450 --> 00:03:04,190 I realized that we were in a depression. [LAUGHTER] 72 00:03:04,190 --> 00:03:06,110 >> Did you notice that other people had 73 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:08,500 more money or less money than your family? 74 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:11,160 >> Not when I was younger. 75 00:03:11,810 --> 00:03:15,135 >> Did you have a big extended family? 76 00:03:15,135 --> 00:03:20,370 >> Yes. Mother had five brothers and sisters, 77 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:24,530 and then, there were nine in daddy's family. 78 00:03:24,530 --> 00:03:28,715 And so it was a large family. 79 00:03:28,715 --> 00:03:31,070 >> And how often would 80 00:03:31,070 --> 00:03:33,870 you get together with those family members, 81 00:03:33,870 --> 00:03:36,040 those cousins and aunts and uncles? 82 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,980 >> I would visit them every summer. 83 00:03:40,130 --> 00:03:43,395 >> So tell me about the house you grew up in? 84 00:03:43,395 --> 00:03:44,920 >> It was a wooden frame house, 85 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,560 four rooms with a hall down the middle. 86 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,215 We didn't have a funiture to begin with. 87 00:03:50,215 --> 00:03:55,540 We had just a wooden stove to cook on and a heater. 88 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:58,200 And then later on we got a furniture in the house and 89 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,245 daddy added on a room on the back, 90 00:04:01,245 --> 00:04:06,405 and it was larger and more comfortable. 91 00:04:06,405 --> 00:04:08,630 >> And was your house in 92 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:10,225 town or was it out in the country? 93 00:04:10,225 --> 00:04:12,355 >> No. It was in town. 94 00:04:12,355 --> 00:04:16,670 We were about a half a mile, I guess, from school. 95 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:19,920 I walked to school every day. 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:25,095 >> And how large was Canton in those days? 97 00:04:25,095 --> 00:04:26,865 >> It was very much small. 98 00:04:26,865 --> 00:04:28,110 It was smaller than it is. 99 00:04:28,110 --> 00:04:32,625 It's large now, but it was smaller, 7/8,000, maybe. 100 00:04:32,625 --> 00:04:35,730 And I went to Canton High School, 101 00:04:35,730 --> 00:04:40,050 and I was an honor graduate 102 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:42,470 from Canton High School in the Beta Club, 103 00:04:42,470 --> 00:04:49,320 and Richard went there too, of course. 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,240 >> Well, tell me about Richard. 105 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:56,820 >> You want to know when I met him? [LAUGHTER] 106 00:04:56,820 --> 00:04:57,090 >> Please. 107 00:04:57,090 --> 00:05:01,620 >> He he grew up in Kentucky after he was one years old. 108 00:05:01,620 --> 00:05:04,300 His family moved back to Kentucky, which was their home. 109 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:07,485 And he lived on the farm until he was 11 years old. 110 00:05:07,485 --> 00:05:11,640 And he said he didn't want to be a farmer. 111 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,280 So from the time he was in the sixth grade, 112 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:15,940 he wanted to be a doctor. 113 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:19,500 And he went to a one room schoolhouse, 114 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:22,140 until he was 11 years old. 115 00:05:22,140 --> 00:05:24,720 And so when he finished medical school, 116 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,620 his teacher wrote him a letter, 117 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:28,300 and said that he had gone farther than 118 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:31,390 any person that she had ever taught. 119 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:36,830 And when they moved to Georgia, he was 15. 120 00:05:36,830 --> 00:05:38,850 All the youth sang in the choir at 121 00:05:38,850 --> 00:05:41,700 First Baptist Church on Sunday night, 122 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:43,530 and I can't carry a tune, 123 00:05:43,530 --> 00:05:45,350 but I set up there with them. 124 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:47,210 And so we looked up and was said 125 00:05:47,210 --> 00:05:49,030 this handsome young man 126 00:05:49,030 --> 00:05:51,130 in the back of the church on Sunday night. 127 00:05:51,130 --> 00:05:54,070 Of course, we all loved a new man in town. 128 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:56,340 So that's when I first met him. 129 00:05:56,340 --> 00:05:59,790 That Sunday night, but he dated other people first. 130 00:05:59,790 --> 00:06:02,550 But I didn't date until I was 16, 131 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:05,190 but he was the first guy 132 00:06:05,190 --> 00:06:07,725 I ever dated that came to my house in a car, 133 00:06:07,725 --> 00:06:10,230 and got me my first date. 134 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:13,220 >> Really. So what did you do on that first day? 135 00:06:13,220 --> 00:06:14,780 >> I don't remember. 136 00:06:14,780 --> 00:06:16,080 We went to the movie store. 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,420 But as I grew up, I never went to the movie. 138 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:20,940 I never remember going to the movie growing up. 139 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:22,460 But after I started dating, 140 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:24,870 we'd go to the movie in town. 141 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:29,220 >> Now, what age 142 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:30,520 were you when you went on 143 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,030 that first date with him? Do you recall? 144 00:06:32,030 --> 00:06:33,410 >> I was 16. 145 00:06:33,410 --> 00:06:34,820 >> Would you have been able to 146 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:35,890 go on a date earlier than that? 147 00:06:35,890 --> 00:06:36,880 >> No. 148 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,025 >> And what did your parents think of him? 149 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:42,070 >> They liked him. 150 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:45,160 >> And after you went on that first date, 151 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,135 what course did your relationship take? 152 00:06:48,135 --> 00:06:50,815 >> Well, we both dated other people, 153 00:06:50,815 --> 00:06:53,125 some during that time. 154 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:58,740 But this was before he went into service. 155 00:06:58,740 --> 00:07:05,880 So his father had a hatchery. 156 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,180 He was the first to have the first hatchery in 157 00:07:08,180 --> 00:07:11,160 Cherokee County and he raised broilers, 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,300 he had a million broilers at one time, 159 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,460 and raised the hens 160 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:18,080 that laid the eggs that he used in the hatchery. 161 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,780 So he was a real entrepreneur, 162 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:24,180 a visionary, and he had very little formal schooling. 163 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:26,620 But he went very far in life. 164 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:28,980 But when they were hatching, 165 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:30,520 the baby chicks at the hatchery, 166 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,800 someone had to be there to make 167 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,780 sure if the electricity went off, 168 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:38,640 you had to keep the incubators moving. 169 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,280 And so somebody had to spend the night there. 170 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,135 So Richard would spend the night there, 171 00:07:45,135 --> 00:07:49,155 and then he'd skate to my house, 172 00:07:49,155 --> 00:07:51,375 and we walked to town to the movie, 173 00:07:51,375 --> 00:07:53,920 then he'd skate back 174 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,265 to the hatchery afterwards to spend the night. 175 00:07:56,265 --> 00:07:57,605 >> Was he roller skating? 176 00:07:57,605 --> 00:07:59,210 >> Roller skating, yes. 177 00:07:59,210 --> 00:08:01,925 >> What a wow. So he didn't want to waste one second. 178 00:08:01,925 --> 00:08:04,790 >> Well, we didn't have. 179 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:06,840 Things were ration during that time. 180 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 And tires were ration, 181 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,995 gas was ration, sugar, shoes. 182 00:08:12,995 --> 00:08:17,210 I remember the margin that 183 00:08:17,210 --> 00:08:18,690 we used was white and you would 184 00:08:18,690 --> 00:08:21,030 add yellow coloring to it. 185 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:23,890 So wasn't like the margin we have now, 186 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:26,555 but it was very different during that time. 187 00:08:26,555 --> 00:08:29,190 >> So you're saying that Richard, 188 00:08:29,190 --> 00:08:32,070 he would roller skate as opposed to driving? 189 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:32,260 >> [inaudible] 190 00:08:32,260 --> 00:08:36,135 >> Yes. Because of the gas and the tires ration. 191 00:08:36,135 --> 00:08:39,050 So he was still pretty young, 192 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:41,070 16 or so but he had a lot of responsibility? 193 00:08:41,070 --> 00:08:43,170 >> Well, probably at that age, 194 00:08:43,170 --> 00:08:45,720 he was probably 17. 195 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Lots of responsibility. 196 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,490 >> And you said he always wanted to be a doctor. 197 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:53,725 Did he ever explain his reasoning behind that? 198 00:08:53,725 --> 00:08:56,380 >> He didn't want to be a farmer. 199 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,650 [LAUGHTER] He had done enough of that, 200 00:08:58,650 --> 00:09:00,350 but he always wanted to be a doctor, 201 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:02,390 and I knew that from the very first. 202 00:09:02,390 --> 00:09:04,230 >> Well, tell me about his family 203 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:06,605 and the home that they lived in. 204 00:09:06,605 --> 00:09:11,210 >> Well, they lived in a lovely place at Holly Springs, 205 00:09:11,210 --> 00:09:14,470 and he had lots of responsibility. 206 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:16,490 Even on Sunday night when we dated, 207 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:17,865 he would have to milk the cow 208 00:09:17,865 --> 00:09:21,770 before he could come have a date with me. 209 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:24,195 >> There's always something to do. 210 00:09:24,195 --> 00:09:25,935 >> Always something to do. 211 00:09:25,935 --> 00:09:28,580 >> So you talked about this rationing that was going on. 212 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:31,080 So clearly, while you were still in high school, 213 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,475 the war had started? 214 00:09:32,475 --> 00:09:33,165 >> Yes. 215 00:09:33,165 --> 00:09:38,455 >> So let's talk a little bit about the late 1930s. 216 00:09:38,455 --> 00:09:42,320 How much did you know about the war going on in Europe? 217 00:09:42,530 --> 00:09:46,065 >> I guess I didn't didn't keep up with the love. 218 00:09:46,065 --> 00:09:47,910 We just had a radio, 219 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:50,030 no television back then. 220 00:09:50,030 --> 00:09:52,910 And I was interested some in it, 221 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:58,515 but not like I have grown to be later on. 222 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:01,230 >> And was the radio going all the time or did 223 00:10:01,230 --> 00:10:03,630 your family gather for certain hours to listen? 224 00:10:03,630 --> 00:10:06,050 >> You could turn it on at any time, 225 00:10:06,050 --> 00:10:09,310 but probably just at certain times. 226 00:10:09,310 --> 00:10:10,670 >> Do you remember 227 00:10:10,670 --> 00:10:12,550 any particular programs on the radio 228 00:10:12,550 --> 00:10:14,750 that you listened to, or news announcers? 229 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:17,820 >> No. I don't remember any. 230 00:10:18,050 --> 00:10:21,470 >> So let's talk 231 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:24,230 about your memories of the attack on Pearl Harbor. 232 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:26,725 How did you get that news? 233 00:10:26,725 --> 00:10:29,210 >> Every Sunday afternoon, the teenagers 234 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:30,990 would meet at the drug store on the corner, 235 00:10:30,990 --> 00:10:33,890 and we'd have an ice cream comb or coke or something. 236 00:10:33,890 --> 00:10:36,930 An I was there that Sunday afternoon. 237 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:38,830 And I suppose he was too, 238 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:41,850 and we heard about the attack on Pearl Harbor. 239 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:45,030 So we knew that was going to really change things. 240 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:51,150 And this was in '41, 241 00:10:51,150 --> 00:10:54,210 and I graduated in '42. 242 00:10:54,210 --> 00:10:55,850 And he had another year. 243 00:10:55,850 --> 00:10:58,910 In Kentucky, he had gone to Primer School. 244 00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:01,230 So he was a year behind me in high school, 245 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:06,940 but our classes were very close together, friendly. 246 00:11:06,940 --> 00:11:11,090 So anyway, when he became 18, 247 00:11:11,090 --> 00:11:17,270 he was drafted and he went down to Atlanta to sign up, 248 00:11:17,270 --> 00:11:19,230 and when he got there, he decided he'd signed up 249 00:11:19,230 --> 00:11:21,390 for the Navy instead of going into the Army. 250 00:11:21,390 --> 00:11:23,640 So that's the reason he signed up for the Navy. 251 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,530 >> How do you think you made that decision? 252 00:11:26,530 --> 00:11:29,520 >> I don't know why he made that decision. 253 00:11:30,650 --> 00:11:33,710 >> How close were you with him at that time? 254 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:38,740 >> We were dating pretty regularly about that time. 255 00:11:38,740 --> 00:11:41,805 >> How did you feel about him being drafted? 256 00:11:41,805 --> 00:11:45,310 >> Well, I knew it was going to change everything. 257 00:11:45,310 --> 00:11:48,150 And of course, every family in 258 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:50,690 Canton had somebody in service. 259 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:55,460 So it was just a norm at that time. 260 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,000 >> Did you feel any fear? 261 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,750 >> Yes. 262 00:12:01,510 --> 00:12:03,710 >> And you had two sisters, 263 00:12:03,710 --> 00:12:05,150 so no brothers to be [inaudible]? 264 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:08,570 >> No brothers to be left [inaudible]. 265 00:12:08,570 --> 00:12:10,610 >> Let's talk about your graduation. 266 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:12,950 So you said you graduated from high school in '42. 267 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:14,870 >> In '42, I was news editor of 268 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:18,215 the Green and Gold paper in school, 269 00:12:18,215 --> 00:12:21,125 and very happy time. 270 00:12:21,125 --> 00:12:23,045 Lots of close friends 271 00:12:23,045 --> 00:12:26,810 that we stayed close to all these years. 272 00:12:26,810 --> 00:12:28,550 And Richard and I went 273 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:31,040 to Atlanta to the Beta Club Convention. 274 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,700 He was a member of the Beta Club too at the hotel. 275 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:35,975 I forget where we stayed, 276 00:12:35,975 --> 00:12:38,570 but we had our first picture made together at 277 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:41,750 the Greyhound bus station. 278 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:46,595 [LAUGHTER] So anyway, 279 00:12:46,595 --> 00:12:49,040 when he went to service, 280 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,065 I wrote him every day. 281 00:12:51,065 --> 00:12:54,605 And I think that kept him going. 282 00:12:54,605 --> 00:12:57,500 But he went to Great Lakes first, 283 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,630 and then he went to St. Auburn's in 284 00:12:59,630 --> 00:13:04,800 New York and worked in the operating room. 285 00:13:06,210 --> 00:13:11,490 So when he was going to be sent overseas, 286 00:13:11,490 --> 00:13:13,670 his parents and I were going to 287 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:16,190 New York to see him because he couldn't come home. 288 00:13:16,190 --> 00:13:18,500 And at the last minute, 289 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:20,465 for some reason, his parents couldn't go. 290 00:13:20,465 --> 00:13:23,000 So his sister who was 14-years-old, 291 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,695 much taller than I was, 292 00:13:24,695 --> 00:13:26,315 they said she could go with me. 293 00:13:26,315 --> 00:13:28,265 I had never ridden a train. 294 00:13:28,265 --> 00:13:31,325 So Wanda and I rode a train to New York, 295 00:13:31,325 --> 00:13:33,035 slip in a birth, 296 00:13:33,035 --> 00:13:37,775 and he got us a room at a private home there in New York. 297 00:13:37,775 --> 00:13:40,520 And so every day, Wanda and I would go into 298 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,285 town and sightsee while he worked. 299 00:13:44,285 --> 00:13:46,490 And then he would meet us downtown at night, 300 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:50,405 and we'd go to a show or something together. 301 00:13:50,405 --> 00:13:53,060 And we were there four, five days, I guess. 302 00:13:53,060 --> 00:14:00,290 And so on the last night 303 00:14:00,290 --> 00:14:06,860 that we were going to see him, 304 00:14:06,860 --> 00:14:12,585 Wanda had not taken any comfortable shoes to New York. 305 00:14:12,585 --> 00:14:15,785 I had taken some cloth sandals, 306 00:14:15,785 --> 00:14:18,785 and so she had gotten blisters on her feet, 307 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:21,845 and we had walked to the zoo that day, I think. 308 00:14:21,845 --> 00:14:30,540 And we went back to the train station to meet Richard, 309 00:14:31,060 --> 00:14:33,410 and we were supposed 310 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:34,940 to meet him in front of a restaurant. 311 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:37,115 I learned one of my lessons 312 00:14:37,115 --> 00:14:39,845 that has stayed with me all my life. 313 00:14:39,845 --> 00:14:41,990 Be sure you know where you're going to meet 314 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:44,315 somebody and what time. 315 00:14:44,315 --> 00:14:46,340 We waited in front of 316 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:49,100 a restaurant for an hour and he didn't come. 317 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:50,870 There were millions of 318 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:57,230 white little sailors all over the train station. 319 00:14:57,230 --> 00:15:00,665 And Wanda said, "I cannot walk another step." 320 00:15:00,665 --> 00:15:02,315 And so she went out front 321 00:15:02,315 --> 00:15:04,850 and leaned up against one of the big columns, 322 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:06,710 and she said, "I can't do it," and I said, 323 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:09,575 "I can't leave town without seeing Richard again." 324 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:12,095 And so I went back in, 325 00:15:12,095 --> 00:15:17,300 and I was at the top of an escalator and I looked down, 326 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:20,825 and he was standing in front of a different restaurant. 327 00:15:20,825 --> 00:15:22,790 He had been waiting on one floor. 328 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:24,815 We were waiting on the other floor. 329 00:15:24,815 --> 00:15:27,080 And anyway, we got together and 330 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,155 had dinner and went back to the house that night. 331 00:15:30,155 --> 00:15:31,760 And so he went up to the room 332 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,965 and visited with us for a while, 333 00:15:33,965 --> 00:15:36,635 and he stayed there after midnight. 334 00:15:36,635 --> 00:15:39,830 And that night he asked me to marry him, 335 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:42,215 and it was D-Day, 336 00:15:42,215 --> 00:15:47,525 June the 6th, 1944. 337 00:15:47,525 --> 00:15:50,435 >> You were very young still at the time. 338 00:15:50,435 --> 00:15:52,130 >> Yes, I was 19. 339 00:15:52,130 --> 00:15:53,855 >> So what did you tell him? 340 00:15:53,855 --> 00:15:57,680 >> I told him yes. [LAUGHTER] 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,985 >> I know that happened a lot. 342 00:15:58,985 --> 00:16:01,040 People would get engaged 343 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,765 right before someone was going to leave. 344 00:16:02,765 --> 00:16:05,045 Well, what was motivation for that? 345 00:16:05,045 --> 00:16:08,660 Why do you think people did that? Or why did you do it? 346 00:16:08,660 --> 00:16:11,600 >> Well, I was in love with him. 347 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,005 And it probably gave him some security, 348 00:16:15,005 --> 00:16:16,550 I don't know, to think 349 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:19,620 somebody be waiting for him when he came home. 350 00:16:20,110 --> 00:16:24,500 So anyway, so we left the next morning. 351 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:26,210 We saw him after midnight and 352 00:16:26,210 --> 00:16:28,070 then we didn't see him the next morning, 353 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:30,200 and he went to the Pacific. 354 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,975 And he was on a aircraft carrier, 355 00:16:32,975 --> 00:16:38,450 and he saw the flag light raised at Iwo Jima. 356 00:16:38,450 --> 00:16:40,190 He was at Okinawa, 357 00:16:40,190 --> 00:16:42,050 and they would bring the wounded back on 358 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:44,645 the ship for them to take care of. 359 00:16:44,645 --> 00:16:48,200 And he helped very many people at sea. 360 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,725 He played taps for them when they had the burial service. 361 00:16:51,725 --> 00:16:58,710 And so he had quite a life. 362 00:16:58,710 --> 00:17:00,805 >> So let's talk about his service. 363 00:17:00,805 --> 00:17:03,445 Was he a medic? 364 00:17:03,445 --> 00:17:05,200 >> Yes, he was. 365 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,705 >> So did he mostly stay on board ship? 366 00:17:07,705 --> 00:17:10,120 >> He stayed on board ship. He did not get off. 367 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:14,330 >> Did he have specific memories or did he share stories 368 00:17:14,330 --> 00:17:17,030 of wounded soldiers and 369 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:20,240 what he had to do in those situations? 370 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,210 >> I don't remember any particular stories, 371 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:27,185 but I would write him every day. 372 00:17:27,185 --> 00:17:28,865 We used airgrams, 373 00:17:28,865 --> 00:17:32,090 which we fold up paper and they could be censored, 374 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:33,710 and his mail had to be 375 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:36,410 censored to me too during that time. 376 00:17:36,410 --> 00:17:43,910 And he came in 377 00:17:43,910 --> 00:17:48,470 August of 15th of '45. 378 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:50,255 He was home on leave. 379 00:17:50,255 --> 00:17:52,535 And of course, the war in Europe was over 380 00:17:52,535 --> 00:17:55,160 in April and May that year. 381 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,460 And we went to Atlanta to get my wedding rings. 382 00:17:58,460 --> 00:18:00,380 And as we were coming home 383 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:02,135 from Atlanta with our wedding rings, 384 00:18:02,135 --> 00:18:04,550 we heard on the radio that the war with Japan was 385 00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:09,365 opened over on August of 15th, '45. 386 00:18:09,365 --> 00:18:13,100 >> So did he have to go back? 387 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,530 >> He had to go back, and he was put on another ship. 388 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:17,000 He served on the Bunker Hill, 389 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,755 to begin with, and then the Bayfield. 390 00:18:18,755 --> 00:18:20,600 Bayfield was a transport ship. 391 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,430 So they had to go back and bring 392 00:18:22,430 --> 00:18:24,410 the soldiers back from the Pacific, 393 00:18:24,410 --> 00:18:28,520 and he got home in April of '46. 394 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,880 And we were married June the 2nd of '46, 395 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,130 three months after he got home. 396 00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:36,380 >> So I want to go back just for 397 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:38,255 a little bit to the trip to New York. 398 00:18:38,255 --> 00:18:40,625 How did you feel going to New York? 399 00:18:40,625 --> 00:18:42,935 I assume it was your first trip too. 400 00:18:42,935 --> 00:18:44,525 >> It was my first trip. 401 00:18:44,525 --> 00:18:46,505 Well, I've been to Florida maybe, 402 00:18:46,505 --> 00:18:47,960 not much else, 403 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,405 because my family did not travel. 404 00:18:50,405 --> 00:18:52,475 And to look back now 405 00:18:52,475 --> 00:18:55,145 and realize that mother and daddy let me go. 406 00:18:55,145 --> 00:18:56,540 Of course, they thought I was going with 407 00:18:56,540 --> 00:18:58,010 his parents to begin with, 408 00:18:58,010 --> 00:19:00,035 to let me go with Wanda. 409 00:19:00,035 --> 00:19:03,140 I had to ride a bus to Atlanta to catch the train. 410 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:04,775 Never been on a train. 411 00:19:04,775 --> 00:19:07,565 That was amazing that they let me do that. 412 00:19:07,565 --> 00:19:10,175 >> What was life like on the train? 413 00:19:10,175 --> 00:19:12,605 >> I enjoyed it. They had good food, 414 00:19:12,605 --> 00:19:14,480 and then we slept in births, 415 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,015 and it was a new experience. 416 00:19:17,015 --> 00:19:18,875 >> Were you able to sleep overnight? 417 00:19:18,875 --> 00:19:21,680 >> Yes. It took all night to get there. 418 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,950 >> And who else did you see on the train? 419 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:27,590 Was it a lot of soldiers or civilians? 420 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:29,150 >> More civilians. I didn't see 421 00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:31,580 many soldiers on that train. 422 00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:34,115 >> Do you remember the stops along the way? 423 00:19:34,115 --> 00:19:35,405 >> No. 424 00:19:35,405 --> 00:19:38,240 >> And when it came into New York, 425 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,070 where did it arrive? Do you remember? 426 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,765 >> The name escapes me right now. 427 00:19:44,765 --> 00:19:47,555 It's where I met him at the restaurant. 428 00:19:47,555 --> 00:19:48,725 >> The Grand Central? 429 00:19:48,725 --> 00:19:51,005 >> Yeah. Grand Central station. 430 00:19:51,005 --> 00:19:53,255 >> So that must have made quite an impression? 431 00:19:53,255 --> 00:19:56,870 >> It was. The whole New York made an impression. 432 00:19:56,870 --> 00:20:00,185 But we would find our way around and sightsee, 433 00:20:00,185 --> 00:20:03,815 and we saw more shows. 434 00:20:03,815 --> 00:20:06,480 We saw the valleys. 435 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,745 >> That must have been very exciting. 436 00:20:10,745 --> 00:20:16,265 So you got engaged and then he went to the Pacific. 437 00:20:16,265 --> 00:20:18,140 And so you came back to Canton? 438 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:18,815 >> That's right. 439 00:20:18,815 --> 00:20:20,660 >> And what did you do at that point? 440 00:20:20,660 --> 00:20:22,325 You were graduated. What did you do? 441 00:20:22,325 --> 00:20:25,085 >> I went to business college first, 442 00:20:25,085 --> 00:20:26,525 and then I came back and 443 00:20:26,525 --> 00:20:28,040 a neighbor up the street said there was 444 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,285 an opening at the main offices for Canton Cotton Mills. 445 00:20:32,285 --> 00:20:35,675 And so I went there and got the job, 446 00:20:35,675 --> 00:20:37,070 and I was secretary to 447 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:38,660 the secretary of Canton Cotton Mills. 448 00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:41,195 They had two large mills. They made denim. 449 00:20:41,195 --> 00:20:42,890 I don't know that it had anything 450 00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:46,475 connected with the army, 451 00:20:46,475 --> 00:20:49,205 and I had to analyze the payroll. 452 00:20:49,205 --> 00:20:53,360 I had to list everybody, their job description, 453 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,070 how much they bade an hour, 454 00:20:55,070 --> 00:20:58,070 so they could do how much money was spent 455 00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:01,430 on each job in the cotton mill. 456 00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:06,305 And so I have always loved figures. 457 00:21:06,305 --> 00:21:10,955 And I always want to balance everything to the penny. 458 00:21:10,955 --> 00:21:13,040 And a penny still means a lot to me. 459 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,330 [LAUGHTER] 460 00:21:14,330 --> 00:21:16,475 >> So how long were you working at that job? 461 00:21:16,475 --> 00:21:20,540 >> I worked there, well, 462 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:23,250 until he got out of service, let's see. 463 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:26,120 Two years, I guess. 464 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:28,475 He came home one time on furlough. 465 00:21:28,475 --> 00:21:31,520 I didn't know he was coming. 466 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,020 He was standing out in the foyer 467 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:34,265 at the cotton in the office. 468 00:21:34,265 --> 00:21:36,860 I looked up, he had a mustache. 469 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:39,260 By that night, he shaved off the mustache. [LAUGHTER] 470 00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:42,890 >> He must have seen the look on your face. 471 00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:45,620 >> He did. [LAUGHTER] 472 00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:47,080 >> So you were working there for two years. 473 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,465 Do you remember your hours? When would you go in? 474 00:21:49,465 --> 00:21:51,580 >> I would work in the daytime. 475 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:54,760 >> And how much money did you make? Do you recall? 476 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,070 >> A hundred and something dollar a month. 477 00:22:01,090 --> 00:22:04,250 >> Did you save it or did you spend it all? 478 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:05,450 >> I saved some. I bought 479 00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:10,490 a radio with a record player in it, 480 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:11,900 and I bought our cedar chairs, 481 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:14,660 and that was all that we had when we got married. 482 00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:16,610 But I saved some. I bought 483 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:19,685 war bonds and he bought some more bonds. 484 00:22:19,685 --> 00:22:21,335 He would save, send 485 00:22:21,335 --> 00:22:23,270 some of his money home to his mother, 486 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:24,920 and she'd buy bonds with it. 487 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,435 But we didn't have very much when we got married. 488 00:22:27,435 --> 00:22:31,030 >> And what was the benefit of buying war bonds? 489 00:22:31,030 --> 00:22:33,340 Why were people motivated to do it? 490 00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:37,265 >> To help the army. To help the government. 491 00:22:37,265 --> 00:22:40,475 >> Would you see any money back from that? 492 00:22:40,475 --> 00:22:42,230 >> Yes, you could cash them in, 493 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:44,495 which we did later on. 494 00:22:44,495 --> 00:22:46,420 >> Okay. 495 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:48,720 So you're working there for two years, 496 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,030 was it mostly men that you were working with? 497 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:52,530 >> Men and ladies. 498 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:54,405 All the young men had gone. 499 00:22:54,405 --> 00:22:57,360 They were older men that worked there. 500 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:03,630 And it was very wonderful place to work. 501 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:06,495 It was the headquarters of both cotton mills 502 00:23:06,495 --> 00:23:10,590 and never had any problem there. 503 00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,870 >> And you said you were secretary to the secretary? 504 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:15,615 Was that secretary a man or a woman? 505 00:23:15,615 --> 00:23:19,020 >> A man, of the Jones family and 506 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:22,290 they were very outstanding and in fact, 507 00:23:22,290 --> 00:23:24,760 they owned just about everything. 508 00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:28,650 >> So your husband, Richard, 509 00:23:28,650 --> 00:23:32,625 he comes back in 46 and you got married in June. 510 00:23:32,625 --> 00:23:34,335 >> June the 2nd, 46. 511 00:23:34,335 --> 00:23:35,940 >> Tell me about your wedding. 512 00:23:35,940 --> 00:23:38,700 >> It was at my house. 513 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:41,820 Mother had had major surgery about a month before. 514 00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:45,465 So I was working and I had to get ready for the wedding, 515 00:23:45,465 --> 00:23:47,490 get the house in order and 516 00:23:47,490 --> 00:23:49,770 because she wasn't able to do that very much. 517 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:53,610 But we just had a small family wedding and had 518 00:23:53,610 --> 00:23:58,470 a friend play some music and I had a friend to 519 00:23:58,470 --> 00:24:02,640 sing and his brother loaned us 520 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,010 his convertible to go on 521 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:08,025 a honeymoon for two weeks, which was wonderful. 522 00:24:08,025 --> 00:24:10,050 But he went out and made sure 523 00:24:10,050 --> 00:24:12,240 that nobody wrote on the car. 524 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,505 They had to have a cardboard, 525 00:24:14,505 --> 00:24:15,960 if they wanted to ride anything, 526 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,250 they rode on a cardboard and they 527 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:19,695 put 10 cans on the back of the car. 528 00:24:19,695 --> 00:24:22,650 And so we just had a little reception at the house. 529 00:24:22,650 --> 00:24:24,870 And when we left, people 530 00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:26,445 followed us all the way to Marietta. 531 00:24:26,445 --> 00:24:28,380 We were going to Atlanta to the Biltmore for 532 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:31,950 our first night and people were still following us. 533 00:24:31,950 --> 00:24:34,005 And so we turned to go towards 534 00:24:34,005 --> 00:24:36,225 Carsle to lose them and we lost them. 535 00:24:36,225 --> 00:24:38,310 And then we turned around, we went back to 536 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,440 the Biltmore and stayed one night. 537 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,345 And then we went through the smokes 538 00:24:42,345 --> 00:24:46,710 and went up to Kentucky to meet all his relatives. 539 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:48,105 They were all up there. 540 00:24:48,105 --> 00:24:50,040 So we were gone for two weeks. 541 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,020 >> So you met his relatives on your honeymoon? 542 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:52,665 >> Yes. 543 00:24:52,665 --> 00:24:54,840 >> And how was that? And how was meeting all of those? 544 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,555 >> That was fine. They were his aunt and uncle. 545 00:24:57,555 --> 00:24:59,370 And then we came home and 546 00:24:59,370 --> 00:25:00,945 his parents were going to be gone. 547 00:25:00,945 --> 00:25:03,690 So we stayed in his parents house for 548 00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:05,250 two or three weeks with 549 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:07,860 his one younger brother and sister. 550 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:11,610 And Richard was working 551 00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:14,880 for his father that summer and I was still working. 552 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,160 And so we had that and then 553 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,740 we stayed a month or two at my house 554 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:25,380 before we went to Atlanta and he had gotten in 555 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:31,245 Emory and who went down to find a place to live. 556 00:25:31,245 --> 00:25:33,270 All these soldiers, you could not find 557 00:25:33,270 --> 00:25:35,415 an apartment to rent and we thought 558 00:25:35,415 --> 00:25:37,590 his father was going to have to put a down payment on 559 00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:39,150 a house and we'd have to rent 560 00:25:39,150 --> 00:25:40,995 out some of it to make the payments on it. 561 00:25:40,995 --> 00:25:42,405 But the last minute, 562 00:25:42,405 --> 00:25:46,860 they moved 100 trailers to the campus of Emory. 563 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:50,280 They were about maybe 18 feet long, 564 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,470 just tiny, no bathroom, 565 00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:55,770 our first year of marriage and we had to use 566 00:25:55,770 --> 00:25:59,235 a community bathroom and a community laundry house. 567 00:25:59,235 --> 00:26:01,470 So we lived in that trailer for a year. 568 00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:02,970 It was like a playhouse. 569 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:05,550 We had a little ice box. 570 00:26:05,550 --> 00:26:06,810 We had to buy ice. 571 00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:08,580 We had a little fuel oil, 572 00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,150 pump up thing for the stove and we opened 573 00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:13,830 up the sofa in the back and that 574 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:15,825 took up all the bedroom in the back. 575 00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:19,095 That closets were about this wide and we had 576 00:26:19,095 --> 00:26:20,910 a little sofa in the front and a 577 00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:23,085 little fold up table and two chairs. 578 00:26:23,085 --> 00:26:27,750 And so we lived that way for a year but the people 579 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:32,535 we met there were lifelong friends. 580 00:26:32,535 --> 00:26:35,730 >> Were they service people, X-service people? 581 00:26:35,730 --> 00:26:39,510 >> Yes. They were veterans that were there. 582 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:41,190 And then after a year, 583 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:43,500 they built Thompson Hall 584 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,675 which was sufficiency apartments, 585 00:26:45,675 --> 00:26:48,300 one big room with a little kitchen, 586 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:49,980 maybe four by six 587 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:51,990 as you walk through going into the room, 588 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:54,285 a bathroom and one little closet. 589 00:26:54,285 --> 00:26:58,260 And we lived there for six years in that one room. 590 00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:00,945 And and so I made 591 00:27:00,945 --> 00:27:06,435 a cover for the sofa and I did the drapes. 592 00:27:06,435 --> 00:27:09,420 I made Richard a Corduroy Sport 593 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:12,405 jacket and we lived 594 00:27:12,405 --> 00:27:15,045 there and he he would study in the room. 595 00:27:15,045 --> 00:27:16,590 We had my radio. 596 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:21,060 He he bought me earphones and a long extent recard, 597 00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:23,820 so I could walk anywhere in the apartment while he 598 00:27:23,820 --> 00:27:27,750 studied and I could listen to the radio or whatever. 599 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,925 And so that was great. 600 00:27:29,925 --> 00:27:33,000 So we went to the fox. 601 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,380 They had pops concert on 602 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:37,785 Sunday afternoon that you didn't have to pay to go to. 603 00:27:37,785 --> 00:27:42,630 So we didn't have any money so the first year, 604 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:45,660 we had street cars out to Emory didn't have buses, 605 00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:47,190 but after that, we had buses, 606 00:27:47,190 --> 00:27:49,890 but we'd ride the street car down to the pops 607 00:27:49,890 --> 00:27:54,120 concert and go for free and that was great. 608 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,910 >> So I assume most of his time was studying. 609 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:01,440 >> Who was studying? He had 610 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,870 to start on his undergraduate work 611 00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:06,645 so he finished it three years going around the clock. 612 00:28:06,645 --> 00:28:09,885 He worked at Central PAD 613 00:28:09,885 --> 00:28:13,395 Emory Hospital to make a little money. 614 00:28:13,395 --> 00:28:15,450 At that time, you had to alter 615 00:28:15,450 --> 00:28:18,000 clave everything and nothing was disposable. 616 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,340 You saved everything. 617 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:21,870 So he worked up there and made 618 00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:23,640 a little money during that time. 619 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,325 We want the GI bill, 620 00:28:26,325 --> 00:28:32,520 but we'd get on it for the tuition and then we'd say, 621 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,020 he wanted to go to medical school so 622 00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:35,745 we'd save it for medical school. 623 00:28:35,745 --> 00:28:37,575 And so we lived on what I made. 624 00:28:37,575 --> 00:28:41,940 I probably made $175 maybe a month in Atlanta. 625 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:42,825 >> What were you doing? 626 00:28:42,825 --> 00:28:46,830 >> I was secretary to the Onono of 627 00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:50,730 all equipment company and took 628 00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:54,705 short hand and during that time, 629 00:28:54,705 --> 00:28:58,005 it was a manual typewriter at that time. 630 00:28:58,005 --> 00:29:01,965 And did all riche's papers on a manual typewriter. 631 00:29:01,965 --> 00:29:03,720 And they had to be perfect. 632 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,860 If you made one error, 633 00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:06,435 you had to start over again. 634 00:29:06,435 --> 00:29:10,020 So he wrote papers in medical school, 635 00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,450 and I would had 636 00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:15,585 to be perfect with all those footnotes on there. 637 00:29:15,585 --> 00:29:18,270 >> So this job you were doing, 638 00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:19,470 where was that company located? 639 00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:21,465 >> It was downtown in Atlanta. 640 00:29:21,465 --> 00:29:24,615 And I would drive the bus downtown Atlanta. 641 00:29:24,615 --> 00:29:28,890 And so we stayed 642 00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:30,750 in this efficiency apartment 643 00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:33,300 until he finished medical school. 644 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:35,760 We didn't have any children 645 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,955 until his junior year in medical school. 646 00:29:38,955 --> 00:29:42,885 And we had Diane. We gave her a corner of the room. 647 00:29:42,885 --> 00:29:44,670 We put a folding screen, 648 00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:47,085 she had a baby bed and a bath-net. 649 00:29:47,085 --> 00:29:50,880 And we lived there until she was 18 months old. 650 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,660 When she was eight months old the girl next door, 651 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:57,090 kept her and I went back to work for 652 00:29:57,090 --> 00:29:59,790 a year to get us through medical school 653 00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:02,580 and the girl would put her to 654 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:03,870 her own bed for her nap 655 00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:06,045 because you could hear through the walls. 656 00:30:06,045 --> 00:30:08,790 So she would take a nap 657 00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:11,715 in her own bed and then she'd keep her till I got home. 658 00:30:11,715 --> 00:30:17,400 And so we did 659 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,050 have a washing machine and 660 00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:21,090 dryer downstairs and ironing board. 661 00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,740 So I could go down there 662 00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:27,250 and get out of the apartment some. 663 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:33,165 >> So there was some relief. [LAUGHTER] I want to 664 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:35,055 quickly ask about those trailers 665 00:30:35,055 --> 00:30:37,860 that they had brought in for people to stay in. 666 00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:40,335 Do you know who brought those in? 667 00:30:40,335 --> 00:30:43,905 Was that the university or the Navy or something? 668 00:30:43,905 --> 00:30:45,660 >> I'm sure the university had 669 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:49,215 to get them in. They were everywhere. 670 00:30:49,215 --> 00:30:51,840 And one of the friends that we met down 671 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360 there after we came to Rome, 672 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,035 we live next door to them [LAUGHTER] so it was wonderful. 673 00:30:58,035 --> 00:30:59,400 >> And you said people had a hard time 674 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,645 finding places to live? 675 00:31:00,645 --> 00:31:01,440 >> Yes. 676 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,420 >> Did they have a hard time finding jobs? 677 00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:05,280 Did you have any difficulty finding a job? 678 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,220 >> No. I think I got mine through an an agency. 679 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:09,960 But all the wives were 680 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,360 working and the husbands were going to school. 681 00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:18,820 >> So when did Richard finish medical school? 682 00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:23,865 >> No medical school, 53. 683 00:31:23,865 --> 00:31:28,140 He finished college in 49 in medical school in 53 at 684 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:29,940 Emory and then he went to Grady for 685 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:32,490 five years to major in surgery. 686 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:34,575 And that's when we moved down to 687 00:31:34,575 --> 00:31:38,295 Clark Howell near Georgia Tech, which was low rent. 688 00:31:38,295 --> 00:31:41,850 We paid the lowest rent you could pay $18 a month. 689 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:44,370 But he was only making $10 a month. 690 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:48,405 [LAUGHTER] And the second year he made $20 a month. 691 00:31:48,405 --> 00:31:50,445 The third year, $30 a month, 692 00:31:50,445 --> 00:31:52,650 the fourth year, $40 a month, 693 00:31:52,650 --> 00:31:54,090 the fifth year we were in 694 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:57,690 the new gradies and he made enough of us to live on. 695 00:31:57,690 --> 00:31:59,790 But we had saved every penny we 696 00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:01,890 could we never went to a movie, 697 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:03,705 we didn't go out to eat. 698 00:32:03,705 --> 00:32:06,810 I made all the clothes for the children 699 00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:10,200 and cooked everything from scratch, 700 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,060 we ate lots of spam instead of ham. 701 00:32:13,610 --> 00:32:16,620 So we lived on a shoestring. 702 00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:18,450 >> Now, you were making all these clothes, 703 00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:20,700 is that something you had learned from your mother? 704 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,295 >> Yes. I took homemake in high school, 705 00:32:23,295 --> 00:32:24,895 but once I started sewing, 706 00:32:24,895 --> 00:32:26,420 she couldn't please me. 707 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:28,100 Everything had to be perfect, 708 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,290 had to be matched just right. 709 00:32:30,290 --> 00:32:32,510 And I would look at a ready made dress 710 00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:35,650 and I'd put some patterns together and copy it. 711 00:32:35,650 --> 00:32:40,230 So I was making all my dresses back then. 712 00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:42,285 >> Are you a perfectionist? 713 00:32:42,285 --> 00:32:44,280 >> Perfectionist. I think so. 714 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,403 Probably so. [LAUGHTER] 715 00:32:49,403 --> 00:32:51,965 So when he had finished up at Grady, 716 00:32:51,965 --> 00:32:54,420 what were your plans? 717 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:57,920 >> Our family wanted us to come back to Canton. 718 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,620 They did not have an anesthesiology there. 719 00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:02,285 His training had been 720 00:33:02,285 --> 00:33:05,510 under with the use of an anesthesiologist. 721 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:06,650 So we came to Rome, 722 00:33:06,650 --> 00:33:09,635 Georgia, to go into practice. 723 00:33:09,635 --> 00:33:11,315 He went in practice by himself. 724 00:33:11,315 --> 00:33:12,680 When we came to Rome, 725 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,110 we were not in debt a penny, 726 00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:17,225 except for his office equipment. 727 00:33:17,225 --> 00:33:18,680 We had survived. 728 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,170 We had not borrowed money from the families. 729 00:33:21,170 --> 00:33:22,970 They would come down to Atlanta, 730 00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:24,260 his family would come down. 731 00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:25,865 They take us to Ship Ahoy. 732 00:33:25,865 --> 00:33:27,380 I'd have shrimp, and I think that's 733 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:29,030 the reason I like shrimp so much now. 734 00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:31,430 [LAUGHTER] But that's the only time we 735 00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:32,690 went out to eat was when they came 736 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:34,085 down to take us out to eat. 737 00:33:34,085 --> 00:33:35,510 >> What was the name of the restaurant? 738 00:33:35,510 --> 00:33:36,710 >> Ship Ahoy. 739 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:37,445 >> Ship Ahoy. 740 00:33:37,445 --> 00:33:39,095 >> I don't know if it's still there or not. 741 00:33:39,095 --> 00:33:42,005 >> So going to Rome was just a choice that you made? 742 00:33:42,005 --> 00:33:43,070 >> It was a choice. 743 00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:44,540 >> It wasn't because there was 744 00:33:44,540 --> 00:33:46,700 an office there that offered him a job? 745 00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:48,470 >> No. He wouldn't have practiced by himself. 746 00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:50,390 But there was an anesthesiologist that 747 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:54,530 would put his patients to sleep. That was the main thing. 748 00:33:54,530 --> 00:33:58,145 >> And did he do surgery at his office or at a hospital? 749 00:33:58,145 --> 00:33:59,720 >> Well, at a hospital. He might have 750 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,250 done some in office, 751 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:02,960 some minors thing, but he 752 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,655 did major surgery in the hospital. 753 00:34:05,655 --> 00:34:08,900 >> And how did he build the practice? 754 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:11,800 >> At that time they didn't have 755 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,215 any emergency room doctors. 756 00:34:14,215 --> 00:34:15,750 They just had nurses. 757 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:17,570 So if someone came in and they 758 00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:19,835 needed a doctor, you had to go, 759 00:34:19,835 --> 00:34:22,100 and he would take call for some of the other doctors 760 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,515 that were older that didn't want night work. 761 00:34:24,515 --> 00:34:26,150 So he build up his practice. 762 00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:27,560 He was in practice by himself 763 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,885 six years before he got a partner. 764 00:34:29,885 --> 00:34:35,990 And he just made a name for himself. 765 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:39,410 >> And did you work at that time after you moved to Rome? 766 00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:40,745 >> No, I did not work. 767 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:45,335 And we joined First Baptist Church in Rome, 768 00:34:45,335 --> 00:34:47,255 and they were having 769 00:34:47,255 --> 00:34:51,035 Vacation Bible School when we moved there, 770 00:34:51,035 --> 00:34:53,210 and I took the children there. 771 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:57,485 And then we joined and have been there since then. 772 00:34:57,485 --> 00:35:00,110 He was a deacon and a life deacon. 773 00:35:00,110 --> 00:35:02,765 I was a deacon and I'm a life deacon now. 774 00:35:02,765 --> 00:35:04,820 I taught Sunday school and I was 775 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:07,955 the children's director there for many years. 776 00:35:07,955 --> 00:35:14,105 And when I was single at Canton during the war, 777 00:35:14,105 --> 00:35:17,390 I played the piano on Wednesday night for prayer meeting. 778 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:19,250 I'm not a very good pianist, 779 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:21,260 and I had to select the songs that I 780 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:23,210 could play [LAUGHTER] and I 781 00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:28,040 taught nine-year-old girls during the war at church. 782 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,860 >> So in Rome, 783 00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:33,125 you had Diane in Atlanta? 784 00:35:33,125 --> 00:35:35,315 >> I had both boys in Atlanta. 785 00:35:35,315 --> 00:35:36,590 >> And what are their names? 786 00:35:36,590 --> 00:35:39,155 >> Arthur and Philip. 787 00:35:39,155 --> 00:35:40,610 >> So you had three children? 788 00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:42,830 >> Three children. Diane was 789 00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:44,705 always a little mother to those boys. 790 00:35:44,705 --> 00:35:48,380 >> Really? [BACKGROUND] 791 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:50,585 >> I always wanted a brother and I never had a brother. 792 00:35:50,585 --> 00:35:52,670 So when Arthur was born, 793 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:56,570 I didn't believe Richard when he told me we had a son. 794 00:35:56,570 --> 00:35:57,170 At that time, 795 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:58,715 you didn't know what you were going to have. 796 00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,800 And so he had to get the thing from 797 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,270 the nursery with the name 798 00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:03,860 on there and bring it and show it to me. 799 00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:07,040 [LAUGHTER] 800 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,940 >> And you had your children 801 00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:09,095 there in the hospital in Rome? 802 00:36:09,095 --> 00:36:09,920 >> At Emory. 803 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,745 >> At Emory. 804 00:36:10,745 --> 00:36:12,230 >> I had them all at Emory. 805 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:13,010 >> Why did you choose Emory? 806 00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:14,420 >> The children were two, four, 807 00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:16,445 and six-years-old when we went to Rome. 808 00:36:16,445 --> 00:36:17,840 >> I'm sorry, you were already in Atlanta, 809 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,310 never mind. That makes sense. 810 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:22,640 So I want to quickly ask you 811 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,070 about your home that you 812 00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:27,950 have there in Rome today, that you're still in. 813 00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:29,930 When did you all build that home? 814 00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:32,270 >> When we came to Rome, we went into 815 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:34,730 an apartment for about eight months. 816 00:36:34,730 --> 00:36:39,605 And then our friends from Emory, the Webster's, 817 00:36:39,605 --> 00:36:41,810 he was a dentist that had lived in 818 00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:44,090 the same apartment in Atlanta, 819 00:36:44,090 --> 00:36:46,430 they said, the house next door to us for sale. 820 00:36:46,430 --> 00:36:48,410 It was five-years-old. 821 00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:50,990 It was build in '53, I think. 822 00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:52,700 And said the couple were getting 823 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,140 a divorce and it was five-years-old, 824 00:36:54,140 --> 00:36:55,730 and I said, You've got to be kidding. 825 00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:57,170 We've been in school for 12 years. 826 00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:58,490 We can't buy a house. 827 00:36:58,490 --> 00:37:00,230 But anyway, we worked it out. 828 00:37:00,230 --> 00:37:01,910 Richard had worked for a doctor in 829 00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:03,530 Atlanta one month after he 830 00:37:03,530 --> 00:37:07,040 finished Grady and made a little money. 831 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,170 And so that doctor gave him a loan, 832 00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:14,555 the person that owned the house gave him a loan, 833 00:37:14,555 --> 00:37:15,935 and then we got a loan through 834 00:37:15,935 --> 00:37:17,480 an insurance company to buy 835 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,540 the house that we're in now in '58. 836 00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:22,640 >> Do you remember how much it costs? 837 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040 >> Thirty-five thousand. 838 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,400 >> And could you describe the house for me? 839 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,490 >> It has three bedrooms, 840 00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:32,900 a living room, a dining room, 841 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:34,730 a den, and a playroom. 842 00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:36,620 It had a screening porch and 843 00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:38,600 we turned it into a sun room. 844 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,870 And then we finished up a room upstairs 845 00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:45,050 or the playroom that can be another bedroom. 846 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:49,235 So we have two half baths and two whole baths. 847 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:53,780 >> And tell me about your family today. 848 00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:55,475 So you have three children and tell me about them, 849 00:37:55,475 --> 00:37:57,155 your grandchildren and great grandchildren. 850 00:37:57,155 --> 00:37:59,360 >> Diane is the oldest, 851 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,990 and she married to Sir Farmer. 852 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,660 He is the best son-in-law you would ever have. 853 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:06,965 Can do anything. 854 00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:08,990 When they come home furlough, 855 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:10,970 I always have a to-do list. 856 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:14,270 [LAUGHTER] But they were in Africa for 12 years, 857 00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:16,670 10 or 12, then went to France, 858 00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:19,295 and then went to Germany. 859 00:38:19,295 --> 00:38:23,735 And they have three children. 860 00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:26,990 Jason is a lieutenant colonel now in 861 00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:31,020 the army in Rwanda, Africa. 862 00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:34,880 Naomi is married to a lieutenant colonel. 863 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,560 He's working on his PhD in 864 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,930 Pittsburgh right now. He's in the army. 865 00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:41,240 Katherine is a missionary in Togo, 866 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:46,190 West Africa, and is married to Alan Niles. 867 00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:49,400 They were married in 2006. 868 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,840 All three of her children got 869 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,540 married within six months of each other. 870 00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:54,590 I don't know how they did it. 871 00:38:54,590 --> 00:39:00,600 [LAUGHTER] Let's see. 872 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,845 Arthur is in Macon. 873 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:08,750 He's an anesthesiologist, 874 00:39:08,750 --> 00:39:12,875 and his wife is from Macon. 875 00:39:12,875 --> 00:39:16,355 And she has three brothers who are doctors, 876 00:39:16,355 --> 00:39:18,080 and she thought I'll never marry 877 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,985 a doctor and I'll never come back to Macon, 878 00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:21,920 but she did it both. 879 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,035 She was at Emory when he was there. 880 00:39:24,035 --> 00:39:25,970 He went to Emory undergraduate. 881 00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:29,540 And then he has a son in 882 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:33,770 banking in Macon, a son in Dallas, 883 00:39:33,770 --> 00:39:36,920 Texas in finances, stocks, and bonds, 884 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,445 and then a daughter in marketing in Macon, 885 00:39:40,445 --> 00:39:43,655 and then Hampton's in Calhoun transition right now. 886 00:39:43,655 --> 00:39:47,360 And then Phil is a family practice in Calhoun, Georgia. 887 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,970 He did his internship residency 888 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:51,440 at Florida Hospital in Rome. 889 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,905 We were very surprised that he chose to come to Rome. 890 00:39:54,905 --> 00:39:58,790 And he was divorced 891 00:39:58,790 --> 00:40:01,385 after several years. Had four children. 892 00:40:01,385 --> 00:40:03,095 He married a lady with one child, 893 00:40:03,095 --> 00:40:04,640 and then they've had one child. 894 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,155 So they have six children. 895 00:40:06,155 --> 00:40:11,960 And Glenn has just finished McAfee seminary in Atlanta. 896 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,270 Aaron is a pastor near Charlotte, North Carolina. 897 00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:19,430 Taylor is in Atlanta in business. 898 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:21,365 He's married with a little child. 899 00:40:21,365 --> 00:40:26,795 And Rachel finished here at Kennesaw a year ago. 900 00:40:26,795 --> 00:40:29,090 She's working in Dalton right now. 901 00:40:29,090 --> 00:40:30,920 And Drew went to West Georgia, 902 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,305 and she's working down in that area now. 903 00:40:33,305 --> 00:40:37,685 And Nolan is a junior at Calhoun. 904 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:40,595 He'll finish in a year. He wants to be a veterinarian. 905 00:40:40,595 --> 00:40:42,560 I don't know how it'll work out. 906 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,980 >> That was impressive. Well, very good. [LAUGHTER] 907 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:47,570 >> But I've got 908 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:50,480 13 grandchildren and 16 great grandchildren, 909 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,695 and one more on the way. 910 00:40:51,695 --> 00:40:53,885 Naomi is having another baby in April. 911 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:54,380 >> Wonderful. 912 00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:55,430 >> So I keep 913 00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:58,550 all the names and the birthdays down in a book, 914 00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:01,085 and I send them a card and a little money, 915 00:41:01,085 --> 00:41:02,630 but it's getting expensive. 916 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:04,640 [LAUGHTER] 917 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,015 >> Sort of a community. [LAUGHTER] Well, 918 00:41:08,015 --> 00:41:10,220 Miss Gray, is there something else you'd 919 00:41:10,220 --> 00:41:13,530 like to add here at the end before we finish up? 920 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:18,935 >> I think I've covered 921 00:41:18,935 --> 00:41:21,965 the main things that I wanted to cover. 922 00:41:21,965 --> 00:41:24,410 >> And well, I'd ask why do you think it's 923 00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:27,440 important to share this story? 924 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,640 >> Well, it's so different from the world today. 925 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,015 We didn't have television. 926 00:41:34,015 --> 00:41:36,670 We didn't have computers, iPhones. 927 00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:39,220 The children gave me an iPhone for Christmas. 928 00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:42,040 So there's a challenge now. 929 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,110 I do play Bridge once a week. 930 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:45,865 It keeps my mind going. 931 00:41:45,865 --> 00:41:47,565 So I have some close friends, 932 00:41:47,565 --> 00:41:50,180 and even though I live alone, 933 00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:54,305 I'm at church every Wednesday and every Sunday. 934 00:41:54,305 --> 00:41:57,815 We never had any problem with our children. 935 00:41:57,815 --> 00:42:00,695 I always went to church when I was growing up. 936 00:42:00,695 --> 00:42:02,300 So my children have 937 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:05,465 always knew they were going to Sunday school in church, 938 00:42:05,465 --> 00:42:06,740 even when they were teenagers. 939 00:42:06,740 --> 00:42:08,765 That's when lots of people are unique, 940 00:42:08,765 --> 00:42:11,660 but no problem there. 941 00:42:11,660 --> 00:42:13,640 So they've all been great. 942 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,815 All the grandchildren are great. 943 00:42:15,815 --> 00:42:19,445 Nobody's been on drugs or gotten in trouble, 944 00:42:19,445 --> 00:42:22,260 and I really feel blessed. 945 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:25,670 >> Well, that's wonderful. And I 946 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:28,115 appreciate you sitting down and talking to me today. 947 00:42:28,115 --> 00:42:29,960 >> Well, I appreciate 948 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,840 sharing the story of Richard and myself, 949 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,700 and I hope that it will inspire and bless other people, 950 00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,150 that they will have a dream, follow that dream, 951 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:43,655 work hard, serve others, 952 00:42:43,655 --> 00:42:46,380 and keep God in their life.